Yes, I can hear all of the whining and moaning about "shaming language" and "Coffee Catholic is a Feminist and no better then those other man-haters."
I can hear all of the griping and moaning about how I'm "no friend of men" and this and that but guess what, folks?
The truth needs to be said just the same. So if you feel offended, stuff it. I don't have time for your self-pity and delusions of "Men are innocent and only women are to blame..."
Something I wrote to a fellow non-Feminist that I thought I would stick here on my blog so I could get it off my chest. Because you know what? I have serious concerns about what kind of world my children are going to inherit.
MRA ~ Mens Rights etc.
I keep seeing something in the MRA that really makes me mad ~ this persistant idea that men are somehow innocent bystanders, sitting on the sidelines all baffled and not knowing why and how many women are behaving the way they behave. NONE of the MRA blogs have ever touched on the fact that so many men, men, men pressure women so much to have sex! To the point of hounding and harassing! And that these men don't only pressure, they harass and verbally abuse women that DONT sleep with them! And tell lies about them and gossip about them and make work, school, college, and social settings downright hostile environments for women that don't want to sleep around.
Yeah, I can hear the denial already.
But how many of you men will tolerate a girlfriend that is saving herself for marriage and will not sleep with you unless you are wed? Eh? And I'm not talking you older, jaded guys ~ I'm talking about you younger men, you PUAs that are still out there in the arena being single and having fun.
How many of you would allow your girlfriend to be a virgin - but not only that, but would honor her choice and respect her decision without guilt-tripping or pressuring her to put out?
Yeah, you get my point. The pressure is on and we women are at the receiving end of it ~ all while being bashed and trashed if we do sleep with our boyfriends. We have an odd environment to contend with: Remain chaste and you're despised, sleep around and you're despised.
Like I've asked before ~ What the HECK do you men WANT?! Make up your minds!
I've brought this up, this relentless pressure for sex from men, time and again on MRA blogs only to get told off (big surprise!!) and made instantly into a man-hating Feminist and, "no better then all those other b*tches...)
If a woman doesn't want to have sex WHY DO SO MANY OF YOU MEN CONTINUE TO PRESSURE HER AND/OR DEGRADE AND HUMILIATE HER?Do you Men's Rights activists have an answer for that? A comment?
A solution?? Because, like it or not, that pressure is there ~ it is real and it is coming from MEN and it hurts us women, especially those of us that don't want to put out to every man that asks!
On MarkyMark's blog: a post about how there are no ladies. Well guess what? THERE ARE NO GENTLEMEN EITHER. This I've learned first-hand. I was in the military! I was in college! I've been in the work place! I used to go out with friend! Been there, done that, have at least ten of the t-shirts.
I don't blog/comment from behind the walls of a convent. I've had to deal with, on a daily basis,
the raw nasty hatred that men have for virgins and ladies that don't put out. You men can deny it but it's there. It's the truth and we women know it. And it's not just the odd guy here and there ~ it's so many of you. WHY?!
And why do so many of you all of a sudden become seekers-of-a-virgin, a "good woman", later in life?? Few of you can hardly stand that virgins exist and then, all of a sudden, virgins become the ideal?!
Which brings us to...
All this bashing on "skanks and whores" and yet
who helps to make these women skanks and whores? What, they have sex on their own? By themselves? Sorry, guys ~ but you have helped create skanks and whores and if
you've a pile of lovers in
your past then you better start calling yourself a skank and whore as well! You're just as disgusting! You've dipped it God-knows-where and that's why women like me WOULDN'T TOUCH YOU WITH A TEN FOOT POLE. We see you for what you are: just as much of a nasty STD factory as the various women you've scored!
So if you're going to bash and trash on skanky women and you're a skank yourself at least do us all the favour of stepping down from your high horse! Think I'm just being a man-hater? Try this: ask a man something before you sleep with him.
"Do you have the results of a recent STD test?" Watch how quickly he freaks out on you, rips into you like you are some kind of horrible person, and then runs off to dip it in the next woman...
As far as skanks and whores go,
both women and men are equal on that playing field! So lads, don't get too high and mighty because if you've slept around you're just as nasty. (Not all women or men are skanks blah, blah, blah... have to say this disclaimer before I get a bunch of whiney women commenters. "I'm not a skank! How dare you suggest that
I am a skank? You're so fat and stooopid, Coffee Catholic... You're so hateful...")
Anyway...
Which takes us to the next topic: How many of these MRA bloggers are sitting down and talking to women about
why they sleep around? How many of you Men's Rights guys are actually trying to discover the crux of the problem so that we can find a solution? How many MRA lads are reading books like, "Girls Gone Mild" and "A return to modesty" and reading and hearing about how so many women and girls DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGH TO SAY NO TO SEX WHEN A MAN DEMANDS IT???
How many of you MRA guys realize that from
every angle women and girls are getting sex shoved down their throats? That the Feminists get to us young ~ that YOUR DAUGHTERS are being brainwashed on a daily basis at school by the Feminists (and what are you doing to protect them??) How many of you MRA men know and admit that even in grade school very young girls are being damaged with graphic sex education and young teens are being told to GO HAVE SEX or else something is WRONG with them?
And how many of you MRA men care enough to stand up and
do something about this? Because it's your RIGHT to protect your daughters, your sisters, your neices...
I know. I've been there. I've heard it and experienced it all. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE INNOCENT OR PURE OR GOOD. And so many of you men don't make it any easier for us so don't try and play like you don't know what's going on.
To me, we have a social problem, not a women-only problem. This problem was started and perpetuated by Feminists and Feminism, yes ~ but WHERE WERE OUR FATHERS AND BROTHERS? None of the men protected us from the Feminists in the 60's, or later, for us younger women, in the 80's/90's. Fathers? Brothers? Uncles? Where were they? TOO MANY OF THEM WERE OFF SLEEPING AROUND WITH THE GIRLS!!!!! Either that or they were wimps! (I can hear the men: Oh noooooo... shaming language!! Not thaaaat!)
To be frank, I see the MRA movement becoming just as much of a
hate movement as the Feminist movement. And because of this, by default, the men are going to prove the Feminists right, that "the Patriarchy hates women and wants to oppress them" ~ this is going to become REALITY. There are a lot of good men fighting a good fight but even they get caught up in the
"We men are so innocent and you skanky women are to blame for EVERYTHING" mantra.
There is far too much innocence assumed for men by far too many men in the MRA movement ~ and far too much blame being assigned to women only. I still live with the scars of spending my single years HATED and OSTRICIZED by MEN for being a virgin, for being chaste, for NOT being a skank. That humiliation and torment leaves us women traumatized! All of the sexual harassment from foul-mouthed and often times physically abusive boys that I had to put up with as a child in school... then the pressure and constant public humiliation later as a chaste adult... BY MEN just as much as by Feminists!
Yeah, thanks, guys. Pardon me if I don't see you as oh-so-innocent when it comes to the ruination of our very culture!
And as for the Divorce thing: The MRAs carry on whining and crying about women divorcing their husbands. Well guess what? HOW MANY MARRIED MEN BEHAVE LIKE MEN? And how many of them are still trying to live the single-boy life full of video games and cookouts with their buddies and being obsessed with "hobbies" that take them away from the home, their wives, and their kids? Sorry folks but marriage is a two-way street. And I have a hard time believing that ONLY WOMEN cause marriage to be miserable and all divorced women asked for divorce because they were bored and wanted to go chase an "Alpha."
WAKE UP AND FACE REALITY, GUYS! The divorce laws and child support laws and child custody laws are crap and yes, they do need to be changed so that they are equal and fair ~ and actually looking out for the best interest of the child.
But the failure of marriage is not only to be blamed on women. YOU BOY-MEN THAT REFUSE TO GROW UP ARE JUST AS MUCH TO BLAME. (Oh noooooo! Shaming language! Not thaaaaat!!)
I didn't stay single for so long just because I wasn't having sex. I had plenty of marriage offers. I haven't always been FAT AND UGLY (another thing MRAs go on and on about, how women over 20-something have "fading looks" and this and that, like we're all ugly, disgusting HAGS! And what? Older men are all studs?! They're all a catch?!) I stayed single for so long because I couldn't find a MAN. I didn't want to set up house and have kids with a BOY-man. I ended up marrying a man 14 years my senior FOR A REASON.
And yeah, I did become fat and yeah, that was a turn-off to men. But guess what? I'M NOT IN DENIAL ABOUT THAT. If I have the guts to admit MY faults and MY failings towards our society, why can't you MRAs? (Oh nooooooo! Not SHAMING LANGUAGE! Anything but thaaaat!)
(This is on constant repeat because any time you try and point out to men THEIR part in this big mess they blow it off by claiming we women are using "shaming language" ~ the most recent cop out being employed on MRA blogs.)
The MRA blogs, they deny this. They don't ever discuss this and if you make a comment about Boy-men they go on and on about, "Women using shaming language" and all that crap. Deny, deny, deny ~ MRA has a lot of excellent points. The MRA has a lot of valid complaints. But the MRA also has a lot of BULL CRAP going on from blog to blog.
I fear what's going to happen to women and girls once these men start getting more and more power in the courts of law. It's not going to be pretty ~ and so many MRAs have stated this with glee! They can't wait to HURT WOMEN and MAKE US PAY for Feminism ~ even though many of them have done their bit to help destroy our society. When I see that gleam, that fanatical joy of how women are going to suffer and pay and hurt at the hands of the MRA... yeah, it makes me sick. It makes me want to stop having kids.
On so many of the MRA blogs, even the good ones, I see a lot of the same hateful, whiney, illogical, spiteful, shame-and-blame denial shit that I see on Feminist blogs and in Feminist publications. This is only going to further destroy our society.
Why do I care about the MRA movement?
Because I'm raising a daughter and I might end up with a son or two as well. I despise this Feminist culture we live in but what do my kids face in the future? A change from man-hating to woman-hating??? A world full of "Playas" looking to "****" my girls but not marry them? (I see this on MRA blogs everywhere: "Women are such skanks. All women are to blame for our sufferings. Women are just there for me to ****. They just need to shut up and keep their legs open...")
Uh huh. That's it: Prove the Feminists right. Become The Patriarchy. Make it a reality and prove those bra-burners RIGHT.
Is the future full of boys and men that will hate my girls and depise them while relentlessly pressuring and harassing them for sex and then being cruel and nasty when they don't put out? If my children remain virgins will they be despised by the same men that despise skanks and then, later, whine about there being no virgins??
MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, MEN!
I was a lady. I kept my legs crossed. Guess what? There was no respect. It got me nowhere. The most famous lines I was told again and again over nearly 20 years of living as a single woman was, "There's something wrong with you." and "You need to get laid!" as well as, "You think sex is DIRTY."
ALL SAID, UNINVITED, OFTEN IN PUBLIC (even in the work place!) IN FRONT OF LOTS OF OTHER PEOPLE
BY MEN.
Just try asking a man not to swear or say crude jokes in front of you. Just try and be a lady ~ and watch the abuse pour out of his mouth! If a man is being crude in front of a woman he obviously is not open to the idea of that woman being a lady ~ regardless if she is or isn't a genuine lady! Just as with virgins, there is no room for ladies in our society.
I'm not about man-hating or overreacting to men gawking or making comments or otherwise being men. But I have mental SCARS from the abuse and harassment I've received at the hands of men. The MRAs can deny it all that they want but I know the truth and so do so many other women. Many of us are non-Feminists but we are not woman-haters either. We see that men are being treated like trash in our culture and 2nd class citizens in our courts of law. We see the way that fathers are treated and boys are hated for being normal males. We disagree wholeheartedly with Feminism. But I for one do not buy the idea that men are somehow totally innocent of any wrong-doing towards women. Our society is in tatters because of BOTH men and women going on a wacked-out sexual revolt post-60's.
yeah, yeah, I'm not saying ALL men and women. Get over it.
You're hard pressed to find a virgin woman these days, right? But how many virgin men are there out there saving themselves from marriage? I have a hard time respecting the rants of MRAs that have spent their younger years sleeping around only to turn around and rail against women that sleep around and demand to know why there are no virgins any more.
There's a huge imbalance and we're not going to solve the ills of our society by assigning blame to only one camp. I've fessed up to my mistakes and my failings and I am doing my best to set things right ~ and so are so many of my fellow non-Feminists. I think it's time that many of you whining, griping men do the same. And then, hopefully, we can actually MOVE FORWARD and find some solutions. As it stands, too many non-Feminists are in a rut spinning their wheels ~ or sliding back towards another hate movement.
I'm all for Mens Rights ~ but only if this takes place with a healthy dose of reality. It's time to stop playing all of these reindeer games and get with the program!